what's the most insidious thing that happens when people stay too long out of the work environment, they lose relevance. if you are out of work for a very long time, number one, it's harder for you to find a job. you lose relevance. you lose the connections. and you lose job skills. that is the worst thing. >> gretchen: or you just hope than employment insurance will go on forever and ever. >> that saps the soul. people want to work. and when they've been out of work for so long, the computer on their desk will have changed in six months time. our world is changing so rapidly, the best way to get a job is to have a job already, number one. but if you can, stay current with your skills so that you can get back to the work force when the opportunities arise, which again, goes to the basic point. the problem with this economy is that we are not growing jobs and we're not creating jobs. that's the biggest problem in this economy. >> steve: that's why we had good news yesterday where wal-mart announced they were going to hire 100,000 vets, private industry helping us out. ' line, always a ple